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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 7 2016, 05:12 AM (2,065 Views) | |
| + Ssj3vegito96 | Oct 7 2016, 05:12 AM Post #1 |
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So Elon musk said in an interview that he believes this is all most likely a simulation. I know it's an old question and I honestly thought it was ridiculous but I thinkhe made a decent point and I want to know what you guys think Basically the point he brings up in the video is: 40 years ago what were video games? We had pong. A dot and two squares. Now we have these games that look so amazing that they are on a path to becoming indistinguishable from reality. What are we going to be capable of in the future? And because of this, it's about a one in a billions chance this is NOT a simulation Artificial intelligence, virtual reality, a multiplier game where millions of people can play together at the same time, and every year it gets better. It's crazy to think about what we could have hundreds of years from now Here's the video https://www.google.com/amp/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2016/6/2/11837874/elon-musk-says-odds-living-in-simulation?client=safari Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Oct 7 2016, 05:13 AM.
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| Darker | Oct 7 2016, 05:25 AM Post #2 |
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So just because our technology keeps improving so quickly, that's a reason to believe that we live in a simulation? Kind of a silly reason, modern videogames look very real, but you can still see some flaws in them, and there's no such thing as a videogame that looks exactly like real life. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Oct 7 2016, 05:41 AM Post #3 |
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1,000 years from now computers will really be something insane though. People had no idea we could have games and computers like this 30 or 40 years ago. When you think about it's simple. Eventually, hundreds or maybe thousands of years from now, we will probably get to a point where it doesn't seem too far fetched
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| Buuberries | Oct 7 2016, 09:52 AM Post #4 |
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uh his argument sounds like a non-sequitur to me. i agree with darker. it's a bit of a ridiculous conclusion to reach.
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| * Mitas | Oct 7 2016, 11:48 AM Post #5 |
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This is nonsense. |
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| Darker | Oct 7 2016, 12:26 PM Post #6 |
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That's a first.
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| + Sandy Shore | Oct 7 2016, 12:27 PM Post #7 |
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That's a reasonable belief. I mean, it's not like you can prove it's not a simulation, is it? |
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| * Mitas | Oct 7 2016, 01:14 PM Post #8 |
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There are a lot of things we can't prove. It can't be proven to me that anybody outside of myself is a real person with independent thought. Or that they exist outside of interactions with me. Or that anything in the world past and present that happened outside of my own first-hand account actually happened. Even if they are reasonable beliefs, it doesn't make them any less nonsensical to actually believe. |
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| + Steve | Oct 7 2016, 01:22 PM Post #9 |
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I wouldn't say I believe it but it's weird how numbers can explain everything isn't it? How did we work out a system that can be used to explain absolutely everything in the known universe so easily, when we have a relatively tiny amount of knowledge otherwise? It's almost like the universe runs on code that we discovered. There isn't anything truly abnormal on this planet that we can't explain by figuring it out with physics and such, nothing that truly defines set rules that appear to exist. Much like how a computer can't have something on it that doesn't exist in it's code, you won't wake up one day and have a sentient 3D rabbit walking along inside your screen freaking the f*** out. Unless someone makes a truly sophisticated program to emulate that and put it on your computer. As long as we're not being turned in to tiny batteries... |
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| + Sandy Shore | Oct 7 2016, 02:04 PM Post #10 |
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Can it rightly be said that it's nonsense to believe in a reasonable belief? If it can't be proven wrong then that's a perfectly good reason for people to believe it's true. |
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| + Emmeth | Oct 7 2016, 02:29 PM Post #11 |
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It doesn't really matter though. We live and die all the same anyway, so why should we argue or even care that life might be a simulation? |
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| * Mitas | Oct 7 2016, 02:29 PM Post #12 |
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I don't really hold the opinion that just because something can't be proven wrong that it is a reasonable belief to hold. Edit: Well, if life were a simulation, then there's a possibility we wouldn't live and die the same. Maybe in that world, once we die in the simulation we awake in a world where we're immortal. Edited by Mitas, Oct 7 2016, 02:30 PM.
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| Political Piper | Oct 7 2016, 04:47 PM Post #13 |
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The Holographic Universe is actually gaining ground. The theory of a simulation isn't that far off. If you think about it, Moore's Law indicates computer power doubles every 18 months. As an example, a cell phone in the late 80's had more electrical equipment in it than the Apollo mission to the moon. Scientists say we should be able to achieve the singularity principle (transferring consciousness to a robot body) in a 100 years or so, some say sooner. But the simulation theory isn't that crazy when you think about it. For example, think if there was a civilization a thousand years more advanced than us, or maybe 10,000. There characters in their video games could be so smart that the characters in the video game actually believe they are real. So therefore, there is a possibility that we could be a simulation of an advanced race thousands of years more advanced than what we are today. It sounds crazy but not when you think about the power of artifical intelligence. It won't be long until AI robots will be able to have thought processes and become more prominent in the world, and if this can happen in our lifetime, isn't it possible a character in video game, which is made from computers created by a race thousands and thousands years more advanced than us, could have intelligent thought? A really interesting video you guys should watch is Physics of the Future by Dr. Michio Kaku, it's a lecture he gives on things to come in the future. It is very interesting to see all the stuff Physicists are working on.. |
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| + Steve | Oct 7 2016, 05:24 PM Post #14 |
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That's an interesting theory but it relies on technology not hitting any serious walls and constantly vastly improving. There's bound to be a point where we struggle to advance anything. Although you could adapt the theory to that by saying the simulation limits us from exceeding itself. |
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| Wolf | Oct 7 2016, 05:44 PM Post #15 |
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The only problem with this theory is, who would want to play a simulation of a homeless person, drugatic, the children in Africa who are killed daily by other tribes, etc etc. Point being, those options don't sound too appealing to play as so, I don't think video game simulation is the answer to life. |
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